I appeared on Jon Wiener’s Start Making Sense podcast for The Nation this month. Jon and I were on a panel earlier this summer, discussing the evolution of protest in LA. He is the co-author of the amazing book, Set the Night on Fire: LA in the Sixties. His work is teaching me a lot about the origin stories of some of history’s most iconic activists, such as Malcolm X and Angela Davis. In this podcast, Jon and I talked about activists from the new school, which are featured in my book, Bearing Witness While Black: African Americans, Smartphones and the New Protest Journalism. Have a listen.